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6 years 11 months ago #10661 by Todd
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Here is a right Mastcam image, recently released from sol 1807, that shows a sedimentary sample with a piece of "mineral vein" attached (right). I think we could be seeing random materials that built up within the cracks of the sedimentary layers to form separate mineral veins. However, the mineral vein integration still advances the "artifact theory" just that much further. It's possible the material is eroded remnants from a civilization, which would explain why the material changes composition from site to site. Stone structures could have been combined with technology which degraded over time into the solid element soup we see running through a number of these samples. Certainly the presence of such material is better evidence for an ancient civilization than its absence is.



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6 years 11 months ago #10665 by ??
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I suppose it is a matter of interpretation. I can imagine how this may have been created by natural causes. At the same time, my gut tells me this is manufactured. So I am going to commit that I think this is a manufactured relic.

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6 years 11 months ago #10669 by RocketDawg
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I gotta vote "natural" on this one. I didn't quite follow Todd's logic on this one.
Do you know if there was any analyses done on these ... rocks ... ?

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6 years 11 months ago #10671 by Todd
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I gotta vote "natural" on this one. I didn't quite follow Todd's logic on this one.
Do you know if there was any analyses done on these ... rocks ... ?


If there was an ancient civilization that broke down from erosion, than a mineral vein that frequently changes composition would likely be present within the cracks of the damaged sedimentary layers and that is what we are seeing.

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6 years 11 months ago #10672 by Glitch_Neo
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Its a really odd "formation" (Formed by mineral replacement fossilization i suspect too)

The Image blew up well for my recent Gigapan from 1807 (www.gigapan.com/gigapans/204219)


In the bottom of the image there seems to be manufactured debris?
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6 years 11 months ago #10674 by RocketDawg
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I gotta vote "natural" on this one. I didn't quite follow Todd's logic on this one.
Do you know if there was any analyses done on these ... rocks ... ?


If there was an ancient civilization that broke down from erosion, than a mineral vein that frequently changes composition would likely be present within the cracks of the damaged sedimentary layers and that is what we are seeing.


OK, I think I understand. Being devil's advocate though .... if that was the case wouldn't the evidence be a lot more widespread?

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6 years 11 months ago #10675 by Todd
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.. if that was the case wouldn't the evidence be a lot more widespread?


When it comes to Gale Crater, the mineral vein is widespread, because the ancient lake in Gale was essential for its formation.

www.nasa.gov/feature/jpl/upgrade-helps-nasa-study-mineral-veins-on-mars

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