Object Resembling Pickup Truck in Sol 1197 Mastcam Image

6 years 11 months ago - 6 years 11 months ago #10712 by Todd

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It's these noisy rover images that made me want to get better results and you can sense my frustration in the initial post from my comment. It looks more to me like something in a dome-shaped state of collapse, similar to what we see in and around the Murray Buttes. It looks like quite an impressive feature and the base below the collapse looks straight and level. I think the sol 1201 image is the last we see of that particular feature.

While I consider it a good example to refer back to for learning purposes..

I've learned that trying to use a generalized comparison can fall flat and should be used sparingly, if at all. :dry:

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6 years 11 months ago #10714 by Todd

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I hope closing the thread does not mean deleting it.

I'm thinking of going back in time to stop myself from posting it.

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6 years 11 months ago #10715 by Marty

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I see no wrong in the initial post.
I asked someone who has no interest in Mars whatsoever what they thought the object was.
The answer -- a truck.
OK -- so it is a pile of rocks. We all no doubt were in full suspect of that.
Clarity is a wonderful thing is it not?

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6 years 11 months ago #10716 by ??

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Any hoaxer will have a hard time convincing anybody there is a truck on Mars. The danger lies in a hoaxer air-brushing it up and attributing it to this forum. After giving it some thought, I think that would backfire on them too because it would put the WUITS name in people's minds. So I now think it would be better to leave it.

Besides, I am curious how much a hoaxer could make the image look like this:

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6 years 11 months ago #10720 by Todd

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Will has talked about these sort of comparisons frequently, and the pitfall that comes with them. It's hard to write about this topic without trying to ground the visuals in a comparison and sometimes I believe they are appropriate. However, don't let labels box you in. I recommend, if you are interested in this subject and the interest grows, study a little basic archaeology and how to recognize artifacts, if you're unfamiliar with it. That will open a whole new window on these images and you'll see formations and potentially artifacts that you may have missed before. Now I try not to necessarily describe what it looks like, but why it looks that way. Now I often think, " is what I'm looking at more or less exotic than say, an arrowhead." Dr. Makoto Kowta's article "Recognizing Artifacts" is a good starting point.

www.fire.ca.gov/resource_mgt/archaeology/downloads/recognizing_artifacts.pdf

I do think that anything technical on Mars would now look like the bottom left corner of the sol 1106 composite (below), with multiple eroded parts laying in a pattern.

NASA/JPL-Caltech/MSSS originals

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6 years 11 months ago #10724 by Marty

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If the thread is removed, the lesson is lost.
If someone arrives to the forum as I did and scrolled through as I did they would first hand select what was of interest to them.
For me it was the suggestion that there was somewhat of an image of a truck in the ruins of Mars. And it did resemble said to me as well because I owned a 1951 Mercury 3/4 ton.
And -- the thread rattled on to where we are now with the knowledge(s) shared and advise(s) given and shared.
I think it is a win.
But I will respect the call made by Admns. if the thread is removed.
Cheers.

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6 years 11 months ago #10726 by ??

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It's cool by me. No harm. No foul. This has become a somewhat educational thread, perhaps entertaining too.

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